Model UAV: RD-5 (Codenamed: Knee Biter )


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Current Objectives for this Model

The primary research objectives for this model are :

  • Split motor mass - to examine the idea that splitting the rotating mass of the motor and propeller between the upper and lower portions of the prop plane will decrease vibrations and increase stability
  • Test Soft mounting of props - Examine how using the Oring prop saver mounting technique will reduce prop breakage, arm breakage and improve field change of props.
  • Model Components

    Knee Biter
    Currently In Development

    History: RD5 was built from the broken and remaining parts when RD3 crashed and was converted from an OCTO to a QUAD.

    SpyD Custom Rusty Rev 7 Derivative
    38.00 cm
    Quadcopter X
    ITG 3200 - AQ - Quadrino
    Bosch BMA180 - AQ - Quadrino
    None Installed At This Time
    None Installed At This Time
    None Installed At This Time
    None Installed At This Time
    Flightmax 3S 20C 2200 mAh Lipo
    Hobby King 30A ESC 3A UBEC
    APC 8x3.8SF Counter Rotating Sets
    Futaba 9C Super - DFT (FrSky)
    None Installed At This Time
    FrSky DR8 II (no PPM, No telem)

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    Build Log Entries

    Newest at the bottom, oldest at the top.

    RD-5 Rebuild begins

    Today I started the rebuild of ankle cutter. First we shortened the arms a bit.
    shorter arms
    Next we mount the motors in a very different manner than is normal for the Lab, we usually use the 3mm motor shaft add on, but today we mounted the motors inverted, and used the prop saver adapters instead.
    inverted motors
    I am hoping that this will eliminate a small amount of weight, and at the same time, split the spinning mass and balance it above and below the mount plane, creating a prop plane above the mount plane and a motor plane below the mount plane, I am hoping this will increase stability.
    prop savers
    Further, the Rusty Rev 7 derived frames have been breaking arms too often, it is my hope that the prop saver approach will also reduce arm breakage.

    RD-5

    RD-5 New Power Distribution Approach

    Normally, I build a wiring harness, in the shape of a circle to distribute power, but I saw a crazy idea, that looked like it was just bullet connectors soldered into a group of 4 so I built one, it works great.
    New Power Distribution Harness
    And after several hours messing about I found I had a bad ESC,
    Installed into the frame
    Next I was going to install an HK FC but soon realized it only works in plus mode so fell back to Aeroquad 1.9 FC,
    FC Installed
    Then another few hours of messing around to config the AQ 1.9 FC I discovered the problem was a dead Orange RX, out of the package DOA, Arg HK! So moved on with an FrSky Instead. Rest of the day is shot, will try some tuning tomorrow.
    Lookin good

    RD-5

    RD-5 Enters Flight Testing

    RD-5 while an older airframe, I sporting some new approaches (for us) to:

  • Motor Mounting
  • Prop Mounting
  • Power Distribution
  • Landing gear
  • So after its first successful indoor flight test on AQ 2.4.2 on AQ 1.9 Shield I am happy to announce it has moved from development to flight testing :)

    RD-5

    RD-5 aka Kneebiter gets AeroQuad Upgrades

    With Aeroquad's release of version 3 of thier configuration software and a new version of the FLight Software, It was time that RD-5 got an update.

    We began by trying to use the Macbook pro to do this, and found that OS-X Lion, which is the first OS-X to boot into 64 bit mode by default, was unhappy about the 32-bit NI-Visa drivers, so I download the beta 64-bit drivers and tried that. Everything einstalled just fine. I mentioned to the Aeroquad team that these drivers may help future "Lion" Issues. 

    Next , RD-5 has been running with the AQ 1.9 board. 

     

    And it seemes that the USB drivers for that board were somehow not working right in the Macbook Pro. So I pulled the 1.9 off and put on an AeroQuad  Mini.

     

    After hastily putting a few settings into the board, and trying to fly, I managed to brake a few APC SF8x3.8 Props. Then after an elaborate balancing act to move the machine around for the "new for 3.0" accelleromoeter callibration routine, then I began to doubt myself about which way is the front of the board, so took it all apart and put back together with the board facign the wrong way, one hour and 15 minutes later, I was reminded that even a season verteran can make rookie mistakes. Started from scratch and got things responding more or less as expected. 

    I removed the APC props and put on some junker squarish 8" bulk hobbyking props, if I am going to break props getting the machine to fly, I will use cheap ones. No joy, seemd like the props had no power, so I changed the prop adapters from the o-ring "Prop-saver" type to the frickion fit collet for 3.17 mm adapters and threw on some smallish 7x4x3 Master Airscrew Props.

    Now it seemed the issue is still pid tuning. Somehow in had tests I feel that the quad is incverted on the pitch axis. SO I put it away for now. More to come on this.

     

     

    In the end, after using some pid settigs for my Kinjap frame and th Mini, I got it to behave, but not good enough to fly. 

    RD-5

    Model Flight Logs

    Newest at the top, oldest at the bottom.

    Test flight on 4s With 8x3.8 APC props, o-ring mounted. Light winds.

    Had a distinct clockwise drift in the yaw, I suspect it is an imbalance on the landing gear. Bigger props will help

    Octoquad RD-5 Aeroquad V2.0 - 8 Propeller - 4 Motor - Coax Config Flight test

    Testing the effect of adding additional 4 props same size and pitch and orientation to flight characteristics. Flight time dropped from 8 minutes to 6 minutes but lifts easier and flies more stable in stable mode on default settings, no tuning or balancing.

    RD5 - AeroQuad V2 - Testflights on 2400 mAh 4S lipo

    25cm Motor to motor, In Stable mode, Default settings, no prop balancing, no motor position optimizing, no frame balancing and no PID tuning.

    RD5 - AeroQuad V2 - Testflights on 2200 mAh 3S lipo

    25cm Motor to motor, In Stable mode, Default settings, no prop balancing, no motor position optimizing, no frame balancing and no PID tuning.

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